Justice Alito’s Got Jokes About Overturning Legal Precedents

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In case you had any doubt about how a sharply divided Supreme Court will play out over the next several years, Justice Samuel Alito is here to make sure you know petty barbs are now par for the course.

On Monday, the Court heard arguments in Ramos v. Louisiana. In a unique twist, both sides in the case are asking the justices to overturn the 1972 case Apodaca v. Oregon. Evangelisto Ramos, a man convicted of murder on a 10 of 12 jury vote, is asking the justices to formally incorporate the Sixth Amendment’s unanimous jury conviction requirement to the states. The state of Louisiana is also asking for Apodaca to be overturned, but they prefer the Court find there is no right to conviction by unanimous jury under the Sixth Amendment. And Justice Elena Kagan seemed perturbed at Louisiana’s position, as reported by Law360:

“You have this stare decisis, except you’re giving it away,” she said. “And I don’t know what to make of that because I would think what you would do is to say something like: This is an outlier in our incorporation doctrine. There’s no question that it is. But it has been an on outlier for 50 years. It has been completely administrable. It has been completely clear.”

Despite Justice Kagan’s grilling of the respondent over the abandonment of stare decisis, Justice Alito made sure to get in a dig at the expense of the liberal justices who have been disturbed over the majority’s ease in shedding precedent in other cases:

[Alito] lightly chided his liberal colleagues…. pointing out that “last term, the majority was lectured pretty sternly in a couple of dissents about the importance of stare decisis,” the Latin term for respecting precedent.

If there was any doubt to whom he was referring, Justice Alito said he was “thinking about the dissent in Franchise Tax Board and the dissent in Knick versus Township of Scott.”

In those two cases, Justices Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan blasted the conservatives for overturning a pair of precedents governing state sovereign immunity and the Fifth Amendment’s takings clause. Their dissents also warned about “which cases the court will overrule next.”

I guess precedent matters to Alito when it means a convict might get out of jail. Or perhaps he just wants to get it out there early and often that breaking the eggs of precedent is part of making a Supreme Court omelet before the Court overturns Roe. Regardless, it seems obvious that, at least for the near future, snipping will simply be a feature of the Supreme Court.


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Anti-Semitic ‘Trump’ Graffiti Discovered At The Most Prestigious Law School

Days before Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year for those of the Jewish faith, anti-Semitic graffiti was found scrawled across the steps to a side entrace to Yale Law, the most prestigious law school in the country.

The graffiti incident occurred late on Saturday night, and according to the Yale Daily News, a white swastika was spray-painted above the word “Trump.” By Sunday afternoon, the graffiti was covered with black paint and a doormat before finally being removed in its entirety. Dean Heather Gerken and Associate Dean of Students Ellen Cosgrove both released statements in the wake of the hateful display:

“We are saddened by this act of hate against our community at any time but understand that this is particularly difficult occurring between the High Holy Days,” said Ellen Cosgrove, associate dean of students at Yale Law School. “Diversity and inclusion are core values of our institution [and] attacks against individual students or communities of students will not be tolerated.”

Gerken emphasized that there is no evidence that a member of the Yale community painted the swastika, and stressed that the act of anti-Semitism is “utterly antithetical” to the values of the Law School.

“Yale Law School has zero tolerance for discrimination or harassment of any kind, and symbols of hate have no place on our campus or in our society,” Gerken said. “We take an incident like this extremely seriously and are currently investigating.”

According to Rabbi Jason Rubenstein, Yale’s Jewish chaplain, the investigation is ongoing and campus police are “relying on video footage from late Saturday night and early Sunday morning” to identify the perpetrator. Rubenstein further noted that campus police visited “all other likely targets of anti-Semitic activity” and found “no evidence that this incident is part of a larger campaign.”

This is not the first time anti-Semitic messages have appeared on the Yale campus. In 2008, swastikas were found sculpted out of snow, and 2014, swastikas were written in chalk outside various residence halls. The perpetrators were never found.

Anyone who has information about the incident has been encouraged to reach out to Dean Gerken’s office or the Yale Police Department.

G’mar chatimah tovah to everyone who is observing Yom Kippur today. May you have an easy and meaningful fast.

Swastika appears on Law School steps [Yale Daily News]
Word ‘Trump’ spray-painted with swastika on Yale Law School steps [The Hill]
SWASTIKA, ‘TRUMP’ FOUND SPRAY-PAINTED ON YALE LAW SCHOOL STEPS DAYS BEFORE YOM KIPPUR [Newsweek]


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Many Attorneys Don’t Really Practice Much Law

When I was in law school, I had many flawed perceptions about what it would be like to be a practicing attorney.  I imagined that most lawyers spend their days in court arguing motions or presenting cases to juries.  In addition, I thought that time in the office was spent on legal research, writing briefs, and other strictly legal tasks.  However, as many lawyers understand firsthand, the actual practice of law is extremely different from what many people may perceive.  Indeed, many attorneys don’t really practice much law in any traditional sense, or at least spend the majority of their time on tasks that do not involve strictly legal skills.

Some attorneys work on matters that by their very nature do not require much legal acumen.  For instance, I spent several years earlier in my career working on mass torts cases.  In this role, very little of my time was spent on brief writing, arguing motions, or traditional legal duties.  Instead, the vast majority of my hours were spent completing tasks that did not require much legal skill.

For example, depositions in these mass torts matters were not like examinations before trial in ordinary lawsuits.  Numerous companies were typically sued in each of these mass torts matters, and depositions were usually attended in person or by phone by dozens of lawyers.  Oftentimes, the depositions would go for days or weeks, since one attorney would ask questions that related to all of the defendants, and each attorney would ask client-specific questions for a short while, usually from a script.  In a sizable amount of cases, I did not need to do anything at these depositions except take notes, since our clients were not named at the depositions, and I just needed to be there in case we were implicated in the case.

Of all the skills I learned in law school, the ability to type quickly was the thing that allowed me to succeed the most at these depositions!  Of course, sometimes, I would have to step up and do more of the leg work at these examinations.  However, the vast majority of these depositions simply involved taking notes and basically reading from a script, tasks that did not require too much legal acumen.

Court conferences in these mass torts matters were also unlike conferences in traditional cases.  Since there were dozens of defendants in many of these matters, only a few liaison attorneys did the vast majority of the talking at these gatherings.  Our job would be to simply take down notes from the conferences and let everyone know about deadlines or other details that needed to be circulated.  On numerous occasions, I would travel many hours (all billable) to a court conference to simply take notes for five to ten minutes about our matters, and then travel many hours back home!  Again, none of this work involved much legal acumen other than the ability to take good notes.  Even when we drafted motions in these matters, the briefs were the same formulaic papers we wrote many times before, and we only needed to substitute a few factual details for each individual case.

Even attorneys who work on more traditional legal matters may not spend the majority of their time on traditional legal tasks.  Since many courts are clogged, and because most cases are headed to trial, many litigation matters are settled between the parties.  In fact, much of the time I spend on litigation matters is not on motion practice or discovery, but on back-and-forth trying to resolve my cases.  For many matters, the settlement process occurs at different stages of the lawsuit, so this back-and-forth is even more time-consuming.

The “wheeling and dealing” involved in lawyering is not merely confined to settling matters.  Rather, many courts require parties to come to an agreement, either during meet and confer procedures or at more formal court conferences.  The art of negotiation is not usually taught or tested in law school (although some schools have amazing courses on this subject), but this skill is absolutely critical to the practice of law.

I don’t want to put any lawyers down with this article!  There are many reasons why attorneys need to conduct more administrative tasks rather than flex their legal skills.  Indeed, companies need to have attorneys present and performing work simply to cover themselves in the unlikely event that a company’s interests are at risk.  Furthermore, the standardized nature of many mass torts matters requires that attorneys handle work in a way that does not resemble traditional lawyering.  It seems like attorneys who work at bigger firms on larger matters may spend more time on nonlegal tasks due to the bureaucracy of working on such larger cases.  Since starting my own shop, the vast majority of my time is spent on traditional legal tasks, since I generally work on smaller matters that do not have many administrative requirements.

In any case, I have heard attorneys describe the “wheeling and dealing” involved in many matters as “soft lawyering” rather than the “hard lawyering” that people more traditionally associate with attorneys.  Even if certain tasks performed by attorneys do not involve traditional legal skills, lawyers still benefit from the legal knowledge they learned in practice and in law school.  Even if your job is simply to take notes or negotiate deals, these tasks are enriched by an attorney’s understanding of legal issues.

However, it is still important to recognize that many attorneys do not practice law in the traditional sense, so that law students can fully understand what they may be getting into when entering the profession.  In addition, lawyers should understand that if they handle certain types of legal matters, they may need to rely on “soft lawyering” more than the “hard” legal skills they developed in practice.  Perhaps most importantly, clients should be aware that lawyers routinely spend significant amounts of time on nonlegal tasks so that they can respond accordingly.


Jordan Rothman is a partner of The Rothman Law Firm, a full-service New York and New Jersey law firm. He is also the founder of Student Debt Diaries, a website discussing how he paid off his student loans. You can reach Jordan through email at jordan@rothmanlawyer.com.

Morning Docket: 10.09.19

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* According to an eight-page letter from White House Counsel Pat Cipollone, the White House will not cooperate in the impeachment inquiry because not only does it violate “the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent,” but it also “lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation” and is merely an effort to “nullify the outcome of the democratic process” by negating the 2016 election and influencing the 2020 election. Well then! [Washington Post]

* In case you missed it, here’s what made a federal judge say, “Wow.” In an effort to keep redacted portions of the Mueller report from Congress, representatives from the DOJ essentially argued that a decision to release the Watergate grand jury evidence was “wrongly decided.” [Slate]

* Despite having been dragged into the DLA Piper sexual assault controversy, Kamala Harris has a lot of Biglaw support, and the newly formed National Lawyers Council for Kamala is hoping to raise at least $100,000 by the end of the month to help her campaign for the presidency. [American Lawyer]

* An investigation is currently underway at Yale Law School, where late this past weekend, anti-Semitic graffiti — a swastika with the word “Trump” next to it — was found on the steps to a side entrance to the school. [NBC Connecticut]

* Sign up here if you’d like to take part in a conversation between best-selling author John Grisham and former U.S. attorney Preet Bharara (S.D.N.Y.). I’ll be there to cover the event for Above the Law, and I hope to see you there. [TimesTalks]


Staci ZaretskyStaci Zaretsky is a senior editor at Above the Law, where she’s worked since 2011. She’d love to hear from you, so please feel free to email her with any tips, questions, comments, or critiques. You can follow her on Twitter or connect with her on LinkedIn.

Federal Judge Fully Prepared To Rip Betsy DeVos A New One For Disobeying Order On Student Loans

Betsy DeVos (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

At best it is gross negligence, at worst it’s an intentional flouting of my order. I’m not sure if this is contempt or sanctions. I’m not sending anyone to jail yet but it’s good to know I have that ability.

— Judge Sallie Kim, in comments made to attorneys from the Department of Education during a hearing, where she expressed astonishment that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos had continued to collect on former students’ loans from the now-defunct for-profit Corinthian Colleges Inc., even seizing their tax refunds and wages, despite a June 2018 order forbidding further collection on loans that should have been forgiven. “There have to be consequences for violation of my order sixteen thousand times,” Kim said.


Staci ZaretskyStaci Zaretsky is a senior editor at Above the Law, where she’s worked since 2011. She’d love to hear from you, so please feel free to email her with any tips, questions, comments, or critiques. You can follow her on Twitter or connect with her on LinkedIn.

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