Join
host
me
as
I
sit
down
with
Columbia
Law
School’s
Susan
Sturm
to
discuss
her
compelling
new
book,
What
Might
Be.
Susan
shares
her
passion
for
social
justice
and
explores
the
power
of
reimagining
systems
for
a
more
equitable
future.
This
episode
is
a
must-listen
for
those
eager
to
understand
the
paradoxes
in
social
justice
work
and
how
to
navigate
them
for
impactful
change.
Highlights
-
Seeds
of
the
book
from
childhood
experiences. -
Contradiction
seen
in
the
law
from
day
one. -
Building
environments
for
full
participation. -
Academia
as
a
path
for
social
justice. -
The
power
of
ideas
in
driving
change. -
What
law
is
according
to
Robert
Cover. -
Imagining
systems
for
social
justice. -
Creating
micro
spaces
of
justice
now. -
Three
paradoxes
in
addressing
racism. -
Navigating
racial
salience
paradox. -
Building
multiracial
collaborations. -
The
challenge
and
necessity
of
hope. -
Avoiding
internal
immigration.
The
Jabot
podcast
is
an
offshoot
of
the
Above
the
Law
brand
focused
on
the
challenges
women,
people
of
color,
LGBTQIA,
and
other
diverse
populations
face
in
the
legal
industry.
Our
name
comes
from
none
other
than
the
Notorious
Ruth
Bader
Ginsburg
and
the
jabot
(decorative
collar)
she
wore
when
delivering
dissents
from
the
bench.
It’s
a
reminder
that
even
when
we
aren’t
winning,
we’re
still
a
powerful
force
to
be
reckoned
with.
Happy
listening!
Kathryn
Rubino
is
a
Senior
Editor
at
Above
the
Law,
host
of
The
Jabot
podcast,
and
co-host
of
Thinking
Like
A
Lawyer.
AtL
tipsters
are
the
best,
so
please
connect
with
her.
Feel
free
to
email
her
with
any
tips,
questions,
or
comments
and
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@Kathryn1 or
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